Hubris has just launched on Steam - new trailer - GOTY 2022?

Looks janky tbh. I'll probably check it out later this week. Looks glitchy and Downgraded massively from the early trailers.

My suspicion was confirmed as I changed OpenXR from Steam to Oculus/Meta.

Now the game started in the CV1. Ss 2.5 was too much, but got solid 90 fps or close with ss 2.0.

Suddenly, gone was the blur, all looked as sharp as can be with the CV1.
Some lcd users complained on Steam that ambient occlusion was wrong causing shimmering textures and incorrect depth perspective. And I get that too with the Index, so issues are more profound than just TAA blur. And some places are too dark for lcd, can't see a thing.

But using CV1 all is perfect, no blur, no shimmering textures and ambient occlusion is perfect - and inside dark caves I can see everything. Even controllers work better.

I think Hubris has been in development for 4 or 5 years, it was never designed for lcd.

It feels like an Oculus game, devs even followed Oculus advice of only supporting OpenXR. Feels like a true Rift CV1 game.

Yeah I already saw earlier on Varjo discord game currently does not work with the Aero.
Not a fan of SDE so won't be trying it with any of my other headsets, so will take a wait and see approach.
I actually would not mind checking it out in my Vive Pro 2 but I have everything running so great with my Aero now I really don't want to risk installing Vive Console again. Was never a big fan of Vive Console really.

You're right that no one really knows for sure why TAA does not look blurry with CV1. But Rift-S owners have been crying much about the blur in Asgard's Wrath - that's why I've been associating the blur with the many more subpixels in lcd panels (G1 and G2 owners also see the blur):

www.reddit.com/r/ValveIndex/comments/di3o33/asgards_wrath_owners_of_both_index_and_rift_s/

Well, still having the most awesome time in Hubris with the CV1 ss 2.0, which mostly gives me 90 fps - so Hubris with maxed out in-game settings is exactly as taxing as Lone Echo with maxed out in-game settings (but 2xMSAA, not 4xMSAA, using 4xMSAA I'm down to 45 fps with CV1 and RTX 3090). 

Also just got a new auto-gun - making even Dirty Harry's .44 Magnum look small 



I've just arrived here with my 2 friends, but seems we're late to the party:



If Alyx and Lone Echo had a child, it may be named Hubris ;-)

I have both Rift CV1 and Index fully connected to the same rig - they don't bother each other, CV1 works for all games using native Oculus drivers - Index takes over everything else. 

Also you can easily play Hubris with the Index or other lcd hmds - performance using similar res is the same as using CV1 - and the game works great using Index 80 Hz, no motion smoothing and res 200%. But there will be more blur, some strangely shimmering textures (but only occasionally these are not everywhere, mostly seen in darker caves) - and seeing stuff in the dark in more difficult. 

Maybe Vive Pro (oled) is the optimal hmd for this game?! Even an old Quest 1 (oled) may work wonders, who knows. 

Also slightly funny, but seems some Index users don't notice the blur and just play the game - of course if they don't know any better. Still being in the world of Hubris, even if blurry, is a lot better than not being in it ;-) 

If the game keeps up, I'll be making a similar post like this one on Reddit later - but I need to play the game more:

steamcommunity.com/app/1265800/discussions/0/3722818378187094968/

PS. Hubris also has climbing like in Boneworks, so it seems the devs got inspired many places. Due to the limited violence and gore (enemies evaporate into thin air when shot), the game feels close to Lone Echo for limited violence - really feels like a game originally aimed for the Rift Store, sadly. 

The main thing is Developers need to let us reduce TAA amounts or increase the TAA sharpening high enough to cut through it. Having to Super sample to do it is inefficient. I also do think you're right in that having the SDE tricks your brain some to make things look sharper. Vive Pro/Quest1/OG Odyssey would have some of that effect because the SDE was still significant due to the lack of subpixels that LCD's have.

TAA becomes a crutch for developers to cut corners and smear it all together. It's really obnoxious in Unreal Engine 4 games.

To further add,, TAA on UE4 is a plague for monitors too. No matter if it's OLED or LCD. Take this for example.

imgsli.com/NjY1NTI/1/0

This is from the game Chernobylite. You can toggle the drop downs to see the original, vs the default TAA... to an attempt to improve the default TAA called "New Taa". Both TAA versions look like someone spread vaseline all over it. You lose significant fine details. It's terrible.

My main monitor is an OLED TV. It's the LG CX 48". Looking at this image comparing it to my 27" Dell Gsync There's not much difference in the TAA. I know it has nothing to do with the panels.

Motion blur on the other hand... is a different story. Motion blur can be worse on LCD's due to the persistence of pixels. The fast switch LCD's in VR HMD's do a lot to reduce that. But that's not what we're talking about here because the problem exists whether you're moving or not.

Btw, have you tried Kayak VR, may look truly astonishing in the Aero!