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Post by Pyroth309 on Jun 22, 2021 22:04:19 GMT
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Post by Rune on Jun 23, 2021 14:05:20 GMT
Did see the recent articles about the game, and Steam shots do look like real PCVR - also it's 20GB, the Quest version is 9.6GB. It will be an instant refund if I find the game's questified in any way.
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Post by Pyroth309 on Jun 30, 2021 21:56:35 GMT
Saw this is coming out next month. Demo now on Steam. Point and click adventure.
I need to update the first post on this thread, I'll do it one day this week and put all the videos linked in it.
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Post by Pyroth309 on Jun 30, 2021 21:57:15 GMT
New Gameplay from Sniper Elite
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Post by Rune on Jul 8, 2021 17:12:03 GMT
Sniper Elite VR has launched:
UploadVR and VRFocus rated the game 80%.
RoadToVR rated the Quest version 50%.
I've bought the game, haven't installed it yet.
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Post by Rune on Jul 8, 2021 21:50:05 GMT
My Sniper Elite VR review from Steam - yes, I'm not in the best mood ;-)
"This is another Quest port - the devs have been trying to hide that fact by making nicer textures and adding grass etc. But take a look at objects that should be round - like a plate. It's not round, but maybe octagonal or so. In the very first level check out the armchair, it's really ugly with extremely few polygons due to this being phoneVR/GearVR (=Quest). Also you can pick up very few objects, because the bottom-end Quest processors can't handle real physics. So you get none of that in this Quest game. Shadows are just blob shadows, you got no dynamic light and shadows in this game, because the bottom-end Quest processors can't handle that. Also check out the npcs, if you look closely, can you see how few polygons they are made of? Does not look like a game from 2021, maybe more like a game from 2005. And check out the pieces of bricks when something explodes - big low-poly chunks flying at you.
The game has been somewhat optimized for the Index, meaning there is finger tracking, and some textures are great. But devs only made some surfaces nicer, and forgot many surfaces where you can see the ugly low-res Quest textures. This show that some high-res textures were added, but this was never a PCVR game from the beginning.
Thus this is no PCVR game, this is a Quest port, and I greatly dislike bottom-end Quest games. This game will be an easy refund to me - but still a sad one. I was hoping that we'd at least get the poly count based on the PS4 processor, but no, we got the super-ugly Quest version.
Btw, I'm using an i9 10900K cpu, oc'ed RTX 3090, 32GB and the game is on my Samsung 860 EVO 4TB SSD. I got solid 90 fps with res 200% and graphics on high in 90 Hz (didn't bother checking 144 Hz, because low-poly Quest games are dead to me no matter the performance).
Congrats to standalone Quest users - this game is probably one of the best you got. But PCVR enthusiasts might want to use 14GB drive space for anything but this garbage."
I just refunded and uninstalled. People thinking this game is just remotely similar to Medal of Honor VR have no clue what they are talking about. Medal of Honor is like a Mount Everest of quality compared to this garbage. Did you know that when looking into some eyes in Medal of Honor VR, you can see the ultra-tiny arteries in the eye? Such attention to details is mind-blowingly awesome. And the poly count is extremely high in Medal of Honor VR. You got none of that in Sniper Elite VR.
Seeing Paradise Decay calling Sniper Elite VR for the MOH we've been waiting for... Is he blind? Is he on drugs? Has he finally gone totally insane? Well, truth told, never liked his reviews, he always seemed too happy with everything, he seems to be an extremely biased Oculus supporter. 2c.
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Post by Rune on Jul 16, 2021 8:35:00 GMT
These look really awesome, to me especially the first:
Devs recommend a 2080 or better - DLSS is supported. And this arrives in 11 days, doesn't require much more than GTX 1060, but made for PCVR, no Quest version is planned:
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Post by Rune on Jul 20, 2021 9:54:01 GMT
Really starting to consider totally abandoning games which support the Quests. Because when you support Quest - or think about doing that in the future - it may influence design choices throughout the game. That's exactly what I think happened to Sniper Elite VR - thus we did get a PCVR version based on the PSVR port, but the PSVR port seems to have been greatly influenced by design choices targeted the Quest versions = no dynamic shadows, very-low poly count, no advance physics and tons of low-res textures. Might actually start buying PCVR games in the Oculus Store, because SteamVR auto-patches all games, while you can stop the patching in the Oculus Store. Thus games getting Questified by a new patch on Steam may be protected from Questification when disabling auto-patching using the Oculus Store ;-) Quite funny if I need to support the Oculus Store to avoid Questification
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Post by Pyroth309 on Jul 20, 2021 11:11:00 GMT
I think you're going to run out of games fast then lol.
It's just the sad fact of reality right now that the Quest 2 is the leader and looks to continue to be for the foreseeable future. Convenience and functionality is winning out over graphical fidelity right now. It's just too hard to get a high end GPU these days and it's too expensive. Will be interesting to see what happens in the next year if manufacturing returns to normal but in the mean time, seems like dark days ahead for PCVR. Too many people have issues with tethered VR which is why Quest is dominating. Quite frankly, PCVR enthusiasts are badly outnumbered at this point. Your individual sales aren't going to affect much in the grand scheme of things.
Fortunately I have a lot of titles to keep me entertained and a lack of interesting titles should inspire modders to keep converting AAA Flat screen games. But yea, it sucks.
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Post by dburne on Jul 20, 2021 13:11:44 GMT
Yeah for me it is not a problem as I have enough unlimited playability with my flight and racing sims. I could easily continue gaming in VR on a daily basis as I have been doing with just my flight sims alone. In fact will be putting several hours in with DCS today. And there are a lot of us out there like that. No nothing like the numbers Oculus wants to get apparently, but still we are a decent market.
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Post by Rune on Jul 20, 2021 21:13:13 GMT
My backlog is incredibly long - I won't run out of games for years. Don't tell anyone, but I'm only 15% through Robo Recall, lol. Maybe 50% through Mage's Tale. 20% through Asgard's Wrath, not sure about Obduction etc. Did complete Lone Echo, Robinson, Shadow Legend, Transference, Ethan Carter, Moss, Fisherman's Tale and Alyx though, and more I can't remember - I'm about 50% through Boneworks. Stormland not finished too. - and then there's always Elite and Skyrim... Btw. Lone Echo 2 arrives August 24 - it has just been confirmed: www.vrfocus.com/2021/07/oculus-rift-exclusive-lone-echo-ii-finally-lands-in-august/I'll try to finish that one ... this year
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Post by Pyroth309 on Jul 23, 2021 0:20:36 GMT
This game looks Awesome - Roguelite shooter.
Outlier
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Post by omegam4n on Jul 23, 2021 12:13:44 GMT
Really starting to consider totally abandoning games which support the Quests. Because when you support Quest - or think about doing that in the future - it may influence design choices throughout the game. That's exactly what I think happened to Sniper Elite VR - thus we did get a PCVR version based on the PSVR port, but the PSVR port seems to have been greatly influenced by design choices targeted the Quest versions = no dynamic shadows, very-low poly count, no advance physics and tons of low-res textures. Might actually start buying PCVR games in the Oculus Store, because SteamVR auto-patches all games, while you can stop the patching in the Oculus Store. Thus games getting Questified by a new patch on Steam may be protected from Questification when disabling auto-patching using the Oculus Store ;-) Quite funny if I need to support the Oculus Store to avoid Questification Well now that i have seen what the PS5 has brought to the VR party with a old HMD like the PSVR, it has become clear that my two platforms for VR from now on will be Steamvr and PSVRII, and FB VR is now defunct for me at this point as there i no real place for it now as i have no real intrest in questfied mobile games at all, and i have no interest in spending 20 mins out of a hours gameplay trying to get the QII to connect or stay connected to the PC to play PCVR game with poor performance, so PSVRII next year and possibly a Index before this xmas, although i am waiting to see what the INDII is like before i commit.
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Post by Pyroth309 on Jul 23, 2021 12:16:02 GMT
Really starting to consider totally abandoning games which support the Quests. Because when you support Quest - or think about doing that in the future - it may influence design choices throughout the game. That's exactly what I think happened to Sniper Elite VR - thus we did get a PCVR version based on the PSVR port, but the PSVR port seems to have been greatly influenced by design choices targeted the Quest versions = no dynamic shadows, very-low poly count, no advance physics and tons of low-res textures. Might actually start buying PCVR games in the Oculus Store, because SteamVR auto-patches all games, while you can stop the patching in the Oculus Store. Thus games getting Questified by a new patch on Steam may be protected from Questification when disabling auto-patching using the Oculus Store ;-) Quite funny if I need to support the Oculus Store to avoid Questification Well now that i have seen what the PS5 has brought to the VR party with a old HMD like the PSVR, it has become clear that my two platforms for VR from now on will be Steamvr and PSVRII, and FB VR is now defunct for me at this point as there i no real place for it now as i have no real intrest in questfied mobile games at all, so PSVRII next year and possibly a Index before this xmas, although i am waiting to see what the INDII is like before i commit. Yea at this point I would wait. Several things coming. Id at least wait to see what Index 2 looks like.
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Post by omegam4n on Jul 23, 2021 12:18:37 GMT
^^^Yeah it is sods law that the moment i buy a index Valve will release the Index II for the same price, or cheaper. lol
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